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by **dick scherrer** » Mon Feb 25, 2013 7:24 am

Hello,

than get my message across to you, which you seem to be completely ignoring. Jesus..

HE's busy. . .

Keep in mnd that the poster is responsible for making the post clear. We cannot know what you mean to say, so this is up to you.

I get it that you're annoyed at newbies.

Actually, this forum is here to help "newbies".

by **v1gnesh** » Mon Feb 25, 2013 7:51 am

Hello,

I don't mean him specifically. I meant everyone who has posted so far, focus on pointing flaws in my general direction. Is it so hard to be a little polite? I think I've PM-ed you long back, when I faced the same tone in this forum.

"Actually, this forum is here to help "newbies". "

With all this aggressive tone? Barely seems like it. It's not hard to keep in mind that someone with less experience doesn't have the perspective that you have, and the experience to know where he's looking.

by **BillyBoyo** » Mon Feb 25, 2013 4:07 pm

v1gnesh,

How about just trying to "get over" feeling that we are "agressive" (or "condescending" or whatever)?

You have given very little information, and almost none since your first post.

It is not even clear if you have followed-up on the Google information, or if you were just looking for the "exact" thing to be explained somehow somewhere, directly, for your case.

I'm not able to view few IEF403I messages in the syslog, except for -

the ones that are generated by Control-M's newday jobs
BPXAS
SMFDMP
CTMDAY (Control-M newday procedure)
surprisingly, few jobs submitted by users

SYS1.PARMLIB(MPFLST00) contains "IEF403I JOB START TIME". I checked in a production server and it has the same MPFLST00 entry. I get all IEF403I messages in the production server.

It is not even clear from this what the extent of the problem is. You're "not able to view [a] few" and you seem to say you can see "[surprisingly] few jobs submitted by users".

If you are seeing some jobs submitted by users, then what is the difference between those that you can see the message for, and those that you can't?

Control-M is a likely part of the equation. What is different in how that is set up where you don't see all the messages, and somewhere where you do see all the messages?

Can you do the Google, and follow-up on the three most likely? Might not give you the answer directly, but might lead you to know more about how the production of the message can be controlled, which might lead you to find the answer itself.

The problem is a "site specific" problem, even "system specific" within your site. There is no "magic answer" anyone can give you ("oh, yes, that must mean you've not...").

If you just don't like being told this in the different ways that you've been told this, so decide not to take any notice, I'm not sure where you're going to go with it.

by **Robert Sample** » Mon Feb 25, 2013 7:14 pm

It's not my mainframe

Yet, at the same time you seem to think this one LPAR is not behaving the same as the other LPARs at your site. If there truly is different behavior, then you need to accept that SOMETHING IS DIFFERENT. It could be something in SYS1.PARMLIB, it could be something in a vendor package such as Control-M, it could be something else, but somewhere somehow something is not the same to cause the different results. And as long as you protest there is no difference, there is NOTHING we can do to help you. Accepting that there is a problem is the first step in resolving it, and so far it does not appear that you are doing this.

Personally, I think it is about time to lock this topic as you are not providing any information that would help diagnose / resolve the issue, and every time someone suggests something to try all you do is say that you did it and the problem is not there.

by **v1gnesh** » Mon Feb 25, 2013 8:01 pm

I'll be logging into the system in a couple of hours. I'll provide what was asked here. I didn't have access to the systems over the weekend.
Ok, something is different. I've just been asking for help to identify what could be different.

by **enrico-sorichetti** » Mon Feb 25, 2013 8:47 pm

I've just been asking for help to identify what could be different.

You were so busy whining and badmouthing us that You completely disregarded my suggestion ....

to save You the trouble of scrolling back here it is again

ask Your support for the checklist used when installing products and You will find what <modification> have been done to the base system
extend it to the same for the zOS itself

also it would be worth for You to read and meditate on the basics of system installation...
with particular regard to the MPF ( in wide sense ) exits , see for example
http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocente ... /vmxit.htm

by **v1gnesh** » Tue Feb 26, 2013 2:47 am

Hi,

You very well know that that was never my intention. I'm a bit frustrated and I shouldn't have let it show here. Sorry.

Select all

-D MPF
IEE677I 15.32.44 MPF DISPLAY 447
MESSAGE ID -MPF SUPPRESS RETAIN AUTO TOKEN EXIT
¢HASP000 -00 NO YES YES
¢HASP097 -00 NO YES YES
¢HASP605 -00 NO YES YES
¢HASP608 -00 NO YES YES
¢HASP610 -00 NO YES YES
¢HASP612 -00 NO YES YES
¢HASP628 -00 NO YES YES
¢HASP650 -00 NO YES YES
¢HASP668 -00 NO YES YES
.NO_ENTRY -00 NO YES NO
+DRS100 -00 YES YES NO
+DRS101 -00 YES YES NO
+SIMPLU02 -00 NO YES YES
$HASP000 -00 YES YES NO
$HASP097 -00 NO YES YES
$HASP100 -00 NO YES YES
$HASP101 -00 YES YES NO
$HASP150 -00 YES YES NO
$HASP160 -00 YES YES NO
$HASP249 -00 YES YES NO
$HASP250 -00 YES YES NO
$HASP301 -00 YES YES NO
$HASP308 -00 YES YES NO
$HASP309 -00 YES YES NO
$HASP317 -00 YES YES NO
$HASP373 -00 YES YES NO
$HASP395 -00 NO YES YES
$HASP532 -00 NO YES YES
$HASP534 -00 YES YES NO
$HASP605 -00 NO YES YES
$HASP608 -00 NO YES YES
$HASP610 -00 NO YES YES
$HASP612 -00 NO YES YES
$HASP628 -00 NO YES YES
$HASP636 -00 YES YES NO
$HASP641 -00 YES YES NO
$HASP646 -00 YES YES NO
$HASP650 -00 NO YES YES
$HASP688 -00 YES YES NO
$HASP689 -00 YES YES NO
$HASP913 -00 YES YES NO
AAU817I -00 YES YES NO
ACFAE000 -00 YES YES NO
ACFAE001 -00 YES YES NO
ACFAE127 -00 YES YES NO
ACFAE139 -00 YES YES NO
ACFAE949 -00 YES YES NO
ACFFE100 -00 NO YES YES
ACF01200 -00 YES YES NO
AHL125A -00 NO YES YES
BMC7096I -00 YES YES NO
BMC7147I -00 YES YES NO
BNJ014I -00 YES YES NO
BNJ090I -00 YES YES NO
CNM039I -00 YES YES NO
CNM530I -00 YES YES NO
CNM559I -00 YES YES NO
CSV003I -00 YES YES NO
DC001002 -00 YES YES NO
DC013003 -00 YES YES NO
DC013004 -00 YES YES NO
DC013005 -00 NO YES YES
DC013011 -00 YES YES NO
DC013013 -00 YES YES NO
DC013014 -00 YES YES NO
DC091001 -00 YES YES NO
DC130002 -00 YES YES NO
DC200009 -00 YES YES NO
DC200010 -00 NO YES YES
DC200017 -00 NO YES YES
DC200019 -00 NO YES YES
DC201001 -00 YES YES NO
DC201003 -00 NO YES YES
DC201006 -00 YES YES NO
DC202001L -00 YES YES NO
DC202007L -00 YES YES NO
DC202009L -00 YES YES NO
DC202019L -00 YES YES NO
DC203005 -00 YES YES NO
DC204002 -00 YES YES NO
DC207005 -00 YES YES NO
DC261006 -00 YES YES NO
DC261011 -00 YES YES NO
DC390005 -00 YES YES NO
DC390006 -00 YES YES NO
DC390007 -00 YES YES NO
DC390008 -00 YES YES NO
DC390009 -00 YES YES NO
DC390010 -00 YES YES NO
DC390015 -00 YES YES NO
DC390020 -00 YES YES NO
DC999990 -00 YES YES NO
DFH0606 -00 NO YES YES
DFH0700 -00 YES YES NO
DFH1500 -00 YES YES YES
DFH1501 -00 YES YES NO
DFH1513 -00 YES YES NO
DFH1562I -00 YES YES NO
DFH1591I -00 YES YES NO
DFH1596 -00 NO YES YES
DFH1709I -00 YES YES NO
DFH1710I -00 YES YES NO
DFH1711I -00 YES YES NO
DFH1712I -00 YES YES NO
DFH1796I -00 YES YES NO
DFH1799 -00 NO YES YES
DFH2305 -00 YES YES NO
DFH4500 -00 YES YES NO
DFH4508 -00 YES YES NO
DFH4510 -00 YES YES NO
DSI034I -00 YES YES NO
DSI081I -00 YES YES NO
DSI090I -00 YES YES NO
DSI201I -00 YES YES NO
DSI240I -00 NO YES YES
DSI530I -00 YES YES NO
E -00 YES YES NO
FNM045I -00 YES YES NO
FNM200I -00 YES YES YES
FNM665E -00 YES YES NO
FNM667E -00 YES YES NO
G -00 YES YES NO
GL -00 YES YES NO
IEA848I -00 YES YES NO
IEA989I -00 YES YES NO
IEA995I -00 YES YES NO
IECTMS9 -00 YES YES NO
IEC020I -00 YES YES NO
IEC030I -00 YES YES NO
IEC031I -00 YES YES NO
IEC032I -00 YES YES NO
IEC130I -00 YES YES NO
IEC161I -00 YES YES NO
IEC502E -00 YES YES NO
IEC705I -00 YES YES NO
IEC999I -00 YES YES NO
IEE043I -00 NO YES NO
IEE105I -00 NO YES YES
IEE136I -00 YES YES NO
IEE301I -00 YES YES NO
IEE400I -00 YES YES NO
IEE600I -00 NO YES YES
IEE928I -00 YES YES NO
IEF097I -00 YES YES NO
IEF125I -00 YES YES NO
IEF126I -00 YES YES NO
IEF176I -00 NO YES NO
IEF196I -00 YES YES NO
IEF234E -00 YES YES NO
IEF236I -00 YES YES NO
IEF237I -00 YES YES NO
IEF288I -00 YES YES NO
IEF403I -00 YES YES NO
IEF404I -00 NO YES YES
IEF450I -00 NO YES YES
IEF452I -00 YES YES NO
IEF453I -00 YES YES NO
IEF677I -00 YES YES NO
IKJ144I -00 YES YES NO
IKJ606I -00 YES YES NO
IKT010D -00 NO YES YES
IKT012D -00 NO YES YES
IOS000I -00 NO YES YES
IST020I -00 NO YES YES
IST097I -00 YES YES NO
IST129I -00 NO YES YES
IST259I -00 NO YES YES
IST440I -00 NO YES YES
IST441I -00 NO YES YES
IST442I -00 NO YES YES
IST443I -00 NO YES YES
IST461I -00 NO YES YES
IST464I -00 NO YES YES
IST619I -00 YES YES NO
IST720I -00 NO YES YES
JMN1980I -00 YES YES NO
JMN2000I -00 YES YES NO
JMN2008I -00 YES YES NO
JMN2020I -00 YES YES NO
JMN2054I -00 YES YES NO
JMN2070I -00 YES YES NO
JMN3010I -00 YES YES NO
L -00 YES YES NO
M -00 YES YES NO
MSI501E -00 NO YES YES
MSI502I -00 NO YES YES
MSI506E -00 NO YES YES
NG -00 YES YES NO
NY -00 YES YES NO
SE -00 YES YES NO
SM -00 YES YES NO
VPS221E -00 NO YES YES
VPS310E -00 NO YES YES
VPS312E -00 NO YES YES
VPS332E -00 NO YES YES
VPS349E -00 NO YES YES
VPS825E -00 NO YES YES
WER -00 YES YES NO
Y -00 YES YES NO
ACFF90* -00 YES YES NO
ACF9* -00 YES YES NO
ACT* -00 YES YES NO
DSR* -00 YES YES NO
IEC14* -00 YES YES NO
MK4* -00 YES YES NO
TPNWK* -00 NO YES YES
WER* -00 YES YES NO
GENERAL WTO USER EXIT (IEAVMXIT) INACTIVE
SUBSYSTEMS RECEIVING FOREIGN MESSAGES AND DOMS:
*ALL
FIELD -MPF COLOR HLIGHT INTEN FIELD -MPF COLOR HLIGHT INTEN
URGATTN -DFL RED NONE HIGH IMEDACTN -00 RED RE-VID HIGH
EVETACTN -00 BLUE NONE HIGH GENMSG -DFL GREEN NONE NORM
PPMSG -00 PINK NONE NORM SELPEN -DFL BLUE NONE NORM
INSTRERR -00 TURQU NONE HIGH ENTRYARA -DFL GREEN NONE NORM
WARNLGEN -DFL BLUE NONE NORM WARNRGEN -DFL BLUE NONE NORM
WARNRURG -00 YELLOW NONE HIGH OOLCNTL -00 WHITE NONE NORM
OOLLABEL -DFL TURQU NONE NORM OOLDATA -DFL GREEN NONE NORM
COMMAND USER EXITS NOT FOUND

by **enrico-sorichetti** » Tue Feb 26, 2013 3:56 am

here is the relevant snippet of Your D MPF command

Select all

-D MPF
IEE677I 15.32.44 MPF DISPLAY 447
MESSAGE ID -MPF SUPPRESS RETAIN AUTO TOKEN EXIT
... ... ...
IEF403I -00 YES YES NO
IEF404I -00 NO YES YES
... ... ...

what in hell do You think that YES under the column SUPPRESS means

and You wonder why we are being rude :evil:

by **v1gnesh** » Tue Feb 26, 2013 4:10 am

This is the same setting that's present in other LPARs, which don't have this problem. And like I said, jobs that run on a schedule still produce the msgid. I realize I'm not being very clear but please try to understand what I'm saying.

by **BillyBoyo** » Tue Feb 26, 2013 4:35 am

Are you getting all the expected 404's? Do you get the expected 403's if you "unsurpress" them?

These setting may be the same as elsewhere, but something is different. Have you had a look at what is set for any "exits" there may be affecting these?

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