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by **dick scherrer** » Wed Jun 05, 2013 9:04 pm

Hello,

Because malware is sometimes found in files found on the internet.

You might be "using it", but several of our helpers will not see it. . . In my case, the organization does not permit this kind of download.

If it did not work, the informational / diagnostic messages show this. Is there some reason hyou cannot simply copy/paste the Meaningful bit of the sysout?

by **skolusu** » Wed Jun 05, 2013 9:23 pm

samb01 wrote:heelo,
i tryed but it doesn't work...

Do you even bother reading the sysout messages?

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ICE083A D RESOURCES WERE UNAVAILABLE FOR DYNAMIC ALLOCATION OF WORK DATA SETS (
ICE753I 0 FWK=(0,0) SWK=(1,56377) TWK=(0,0) RWK=(0,0) TOTAL=(1,56377) BLK=56664
ICE248I 0 ATTEMPTED TO ALLOCATE 228491MB OF DISK WORK SPACE ON 60 WORK DATA SET
ICE249I 0 SUCCESSFULLY ALLOCATED 3046MB OF DISK WORK SPACE ON 1 WORK DATA SETS

DFSORT tried to allocate 228,491MB of workspace on to 60 Work datasets (see message ICE248I) as you requested but it could only 3046MB. So talk to your systems programmer to findout why the sortworks are not able to find the volumes.

samb01 wrote:Just an other think, i thought the number of sortwork is limited to 32... So 60 sortworks is too much ?

Please don't assume on behalf of DFSORT. As Akatsukami pointed out, the limit is 255. Please read about DYNALLOC parm from the link

n - specifies the maximum number of requested work data sets. If you specify more than 255, a maximum of 255 data sets is used. If you specify 1 and the Blockset technique is selected, a maximum of 2 data sets is used. If you specify more than 32 and the Blockset technique is not selected, a maximum of 32 data sets is used.

by **samb01** » Thu Jun 06, 2013 1:11 am

dick scherrer wrote:Hello,

Because malware is sometimes found in files found on the internet.

You might be "using it", but several of our helpers will not see it. . . In my case, the organization does not permit this kind of download.

If it did not work, the informational / diagnostic messages show this. Is there some reason hyou cannot simply copy/paste the Meaningful bit of the sysout?

Ok i anderstand. But for me it's easier to put a file whith the whole sysout because when i cut/paste, il always miss something in the sysout.

by **samb01** » Thu Jun 06, 2013 1:17 am

DFSORT tried to allocate 228,491MB of workspace on to 60 Work datasets (see message ICE248I) as you requested but it could only 3046MB. So talk to your systems programmer to findout why the sortworks are not able to find the volumes.

May be it's a problem of dataclass or storageclass. Dataset's work space are, may be, in the wrong storclass...

Is there a way to anderstabd what's happen with that sortwork which are unable to find any volume (SORTDIAG may be ?)

by **NicC** » Thu Jun 06, 2013 1:44 am

Yes - speak to your storge people. It may be that they need to re-arrange their dasd alloctions or even get in more dasd. But not telling them you have a problem means it isn't really going to get fixed long-term.

And as for uploads - I do not access them for security of MY system and at work I am probably proibited anyway. If you want help then help us to help you by making it easy to see your information. Besides which, it is quicker to cut and paste and use the code tags than it is to upload stuff.

by **samb01** » Thu Jun 06, 2013 2:07 pm

Hello,

whe i see this message

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IEA995I SYMPTOM DUMP OUTPUT
USER COMPLETION CODE=0083
TIME=15.08.45 SEQ=04523 CPU=0000 ASID=007F
PSW AT TIME OF ERROR 078D1000 00DCB868 ILC 2 INTC 0D
NO ACTIVE MODULE FOUND
NAME=UNKNOWN
DATA AT PSW 00DCB862 - 41A0C778 0A0D9602 D3CD9180
AR/GR 0: A453F42A/00000000 1: 00000000/80000053
2: 00000000/00000053 3: 00000000/00DCB812
4: 00000000/00000050 5: 00000000/000063D7
6: 00000000/0000879C 7: 00000000/40DCED94
8: 00000000/00DCC100 9: 00000000/40DCF114
A: 00000000/00DCB878 B: 00000000/00DCA100
C: 00000000/00DCB100 D: 00000000/00007000
E: 00000000/00DCB810 F: 00000000/00000010
END OF SYMPTOM DUMP
IEF472I DFSORT01 TRI41 - COMPLETION CODE - SYSTEM=000 USER=0083 REASO

It's sur there is not place enought in the volume VPUB01 but i can't anderstand why the dynamic allocation does not choose an other volume...

by **Robert Sample** » Thu Jun 06, 2013 2:57 pm

why the dynamic allocation does not choose an other volume

Because the storage management group at your site has coded rules to determine how dynamically allocated sort work requests will be handled. SMS rules dictate how data set allocations (both dynamic and static) are done: the eligible volumes, thresh hold limits, and so forth.

by **samb01** » Thu Jun 06, 2013 5:20 pm

Ok, thank you. I will ask so the spacemanager to change it (if it's possible).

With dynamic allocation, may be 60 sortwork is too much

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OPTION AVGRLEN=204,DYNALLOC=(,60),FILSZ=E730000000

In the JCL, i coded :

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//SORTWK01 DD DSN=TCFVD.TCFRT.SORTWK01,
// SPACE=(CYL,(100,200)),UNIT=3390,
// DISP=(,DELETE,DELETE)
//*

60 times.

But with dynamic allocation, may be i could use less sortwork like 32 for example :

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OPTION AVGRLEN=204,DYNALLOC=(,32),FILSZ=E730000000

Il will try it when the ACS routine change.

by **dick scherrer** » Thu Jun 06, 2013 7:10 pm

Hello,

Something you might consider:

Split the input into multiple files, sort them (using FAR less sortwork space), and then merge the output for your required output.

by **steve-myers** » Fri Jun 07, 2013 1:17 am

Many people regard Mr. Scherrer's solution as a last resort solution as there is an impressive amount of manual effort.

What appears to be your solution: placing what amounts to temporary storage in a storage pool intended for "permanent" data is chancy, at best, since the storage is more likely to be heavily fragmented than the storage for temporary data.

You must discuss this with your storage folks. If they cannot provide the temporary storage you need, you need a plan B. At one time this involved using tape for SORTWK, but the sort products all seem to discourage this idea these days, and there may not be enough tape devices in any event. Most likely this involves Mr. Scherrer's idea as a plan C. Good luck!

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